Post by Jane on Feb 8, 2010 2:03:12 GMT -5
This is the beginning of a new journey, with the same goal but a different path there.
When Nicole and I met, Lara's and Mo & Souza's forums were already up. I didn't really participate in either one anymore and I know Nicole would occasionally check up on things. To me, it's never really been the same in our community since Amy's forum 'crashed'. I used to participate all the time on the original forum but on these new ones, well half the things said there I thought weren't really well though out and I felt like people were groping in the dark for clues. I mean I've heard some funny yet nonsensical things that people would take pretty seriously. I think it got a bit messy and stale and uncooperative. And where the heck did out key players go? I can't even recall most of them now but I remember Five. I know I have not see Five in a while and Five was always up to something, coming up with new ideas What happened? I think it got to a point where many people withdrew from sharing their theories and finding in fear that they would be ridiculed. It happened to a friend of mine. She shared something with everyone on the forum and they tore her to pieces and kicked her out. The reason she was banned because she said something that most people weren't allowed to say: I think I talked to Michael online. Personally, if one of you guys thought you had such an experience, I'd want you to share it! (And to hook me up with his email address wink.) Why should that be something that we get banned for! Because people lie? Well people lie about many things, but I can't imagine turning away a friend simply because they had an alleged experience. It's hurtful and not very rational. Who knows? Michael may be online checking up on things. Why wouldn't he have a conversation with someone under an anonymous name? I'm open to any ideas and I don't see the reason for banning people under such circumstances. What else was there, oh I remember people saying that their threads were deleted. And I'm sure this happened on numerous occasions. Perhaps these new forums aren't too bad, you know? But the thing is they are no longer what it once was, where we all joined in our love for Michael and our curiosity of the hoax (and our sleepless night with mugs of coffee and waking up with an imprint of the keyboard on our faces grin) Seriously, I don't feel the love. What's worst is, and I'll share this with you most honestly. I don't know if any of you got a glimpse of what happened on Lara's forum when Nicole and I posted about opening this forum. Anyway I always had a preference to Lara's forum genuinely because from my experience she's a very sweet person. So perhaps I hung out there more than I ever did on M&S's forum. Well anyway when Nicole and I finally decided to open this forum, we posted it on both forums. Maybe it wasn't the best thing to do, I'm not sure. All I can tell you is that our intentions have always been solemnly good. I've seen a lot of fighting on M&S's forum so we halfheartedly expected some fuss about our post there, but we both were sure that on Lara's forum people would be pretty open to the idea. What a shocker and a nightmare. I cannot tell you a time in my life when I have been so insulted, accused, judged, and misinterpreted. Not to mention unheard. I'm not even going to go down the list and tell you all the things that were said, but the surprising part was that it wasn't from M&S's forum. Lara's forum, from what I've been told, is a very loving place. I was really, really surprised at how people took it. Anyway, for people who insisted that their forum was about love, they sure did have a lot of awful things to say to both me and Nicole. We had about a thousand hits overnight on that single thread, and condescending comments from about 60 different members. Long story short, we knew at that moment that this forum is a MUST and in a way I'm glad that the whole outburst happened. Because that not only highlights the issue to US, but to the rest of the members there. Where we thought there was love, there was really a lot of frustration and anger that has been misplaced and ignored for months now.
If you happen to be wondering what it is we wrote in our original post on the thread, I'll be glad to post a copy for those who want to see.
ANYWAY, now that that's out of the way, let me explain why Nicole and I felt obliged to make this forum. A lot of you have commented on my thread saying that you agree with what we wrote. "There are issues, and the love is lacking. The forums have ceased to be a family." We talked about a vision we have, and a new direction. Nicole is very talented: she is a telepath and she's great at tarot, among many "skills" (Guy: "You embroider?" Xena: I have many skillz *look of death*) I've also been tuning in to my psychic skills and also read tarot, in large part thanks to Nicole because she's been heaps of help, as well as being patient with me and being my ground for when I'm down. Am I getting cheesy on you? grin Can you feel the love? heart Since we met, we've been doing tarot readings together. And like any other crazed Michael Jackson fan we've done numerous readings on him angel. We kept it clean i promise wink. Usually. Anyway the readings were mainly on his emotional state, his state of mind, the events that led up to the present moment, as well as plans for the future. The patterns were always similar when it came to readings about the past, but the current mindset/emotional status readings always varied with how he was feeling/what he was thinking at the moment. I know that not everyone believes in tarot, or psychic ability. But I ask you to be open minded with me here, because I have not been wrong in my readings to date, nor Nicole. Feel free to let us know your feelings and thoughts, so that we may better help you understand. For those of you who are more interested in Tarot, I'll make a separate post in the Tarot section explaining more about it and why it's so important to us.
Some of you may have seen our posts on the other forums, about our readings for Michael. So with our talents and our gifts, we feel like we know what is going on, to some extent. It's been a while and we feel like we have gotten a clear picture and a good understanding of what has been happening since before June 25th up till now, including Michael's concerns for the future and how we can help. And that is why maybe I have been a bit impatient with the people in the other forums. I feel like they are not getting it, what Michael wants them to understand. By no means am I saying that we are right. You are free to call us bogus or to simply take in what we say. We just ask that this is done with respect and that your opinions and conclusions are drawn from well researched information and open minds. We believe that Michael is a very spiritual person who knows vast amounts of information on a variety of topics. We believe his clues and hints were carefully planned out starting years ago and many things are still being planned out now. We believe the clues are not going to come like they did in the very beginning, nor will they be as obvious. In our opinion Michael is a person with a high frequency, with psychic ability at least to some extent. Vibrational frequency is the rate at which your being vibrates. The higher the frequency, the more the person is evolved spiritually. Every object on this planet, still or alive, has an electric frequency that can be measured accurately. There are methods of raising one's frequency, and it results in a change of things such as musical taste (based on the musical frequency), realizations, feeling like you are not from here, a different diet, your sense of mission, your psychic abilities evolving, you begin to pay more attention to patterns like 11:11 and 333 and "777", you feel different energies around you, and your sensitivity to people and things changes on an emotional level. We all know Michael is a special man, and those changes that happen to a person when their frequency changes seem like they apply to him. He is very sensitive, he is withdrawn, he is incredibly smart and savvy, he is very kind, he is very talented, he cannot sleep at night, he wants to help the world, and now this hoax. These are not all qualities you will find in your next door neighbor. People with Michael's frequency do exist, but there is a smaller amount of people with a higher frequency than people with a lower one in this world right now. Did I lose you guys yet? grinI can go on and on about what we have come to understand and know. And be sure that those who are silent watchers on the forums or those that have left are also becoming aware. Also I'm sure you have all heard about the recent change of vibrational frequency on an earlier symbolic date, i can't remember what it was but it was earlier this year or late last year. The frequencies are changing, they are shifting in the atmosphere, all the energies around us. And we are all, whether we know it or not, changing and shifting with them. Michael's mind is often to be found at higher lever of vibrational frequencies. You cannot say he is your average thinker, right? Michael is a very complex, but simple man at the same time. All in all, there are things that people are missing out on, because they refuse to make that change. They are fighting the energy change and this makes a person bitter and angry because it's tough on the body and spirit. It will happen whether people fight it or not. If you are on this forum, something led you here. Some things are meant to happen and are very symbolic. All of us here, and more to come, I would have to say are on a higher frequency range because we have an inner knowing that SOMETHING is not right over in the other forums where people are lagging. We feel a need to go on to something larger, and not just wait around for Michael to return. We feel the need to know what he's thinking and what this is about. We feel an urge to progress as people. Michael is trying to help shift our frequency, perhaps, and to get us all on that lever where we can HEAL THE WORLD heart and love one another. A deeper understanding.
I really hope I made some sense here. And I'd like to say: feel free to disagree or to question. It's only natural. But you are here, and we are a family. We see eye to eye, we see a higher purpose, rather than just being concerned with Michael's return date. It's why you are here. We would like for you to give us a chance to show you what we know, with time. There are no secrets here, no right or wrong, only friends and family, and the true meaning of love.
Please believe me when I say that Nicole and I love and care about you all very much, and felt the need to share this with you, and to pass on the knowledge to those of you who want to know more.
Everything in due time.
**I ask you all in your respect to the privacy of this forum. Love Is The Answer Forum has been made private, not because there is privileged information here or because we only handpick members, but because we want to have like minded individuals here. We do not wish to force any ideas down anyone's throats and therefore those of you that are here have shown an interest in being here. If we were to invite everyone from all the forums here all at once, the effect would be disastrous (as we have firsthandedly experienced on the public invite we made). We want to put the love back between MJ's fans but every good project starts small. I ask for you all to please not spread the link of this forum. However, if you have a friend or someone that you'd like to invite over because they are oriented in a similar direction, please feel free to invite them over, with our love.
Thanks for being here,
Nicole and Jane (Sha'mone) ;D
When Nicole and I met, Lara's and Mo & Souza's forums were already up. I didn't really participate in either one anymore and I know Nicole would occasionally check up on things. To me, it's never really been the same in our community since Amy's forum 'crashed'. I used to participate all the time on the original forum but on these new ones, well half the things said there I thought weren't really well though out and I felt like people were groping in the dark for clues. I mean I've heard some funny yet nonsensical things that people would take pretty seriously. I think it got a bit messy and stale and uncooperative. And where the heck did out key players go? I can't even recall most of them now but I remember Five. I know I have not see Five in a while and Five was always up to something, coming up with new ideas What happened? I think it got to a point where many people withdrew from sharing their theories and finding in fear that they would be ridiculed. It happened to a friend of mine. She shared something with everyone on the forum and they tore her to pieces and kicked her out. The reason she was banned because she said something that most people weren't allowed to say: I think I talked to Michael online. Personally, if one of you guys thought you had such an experience, I'd want you to share it! (And to hook me up with his email address wink.) Why should that be something that we get banned for! Because people lie? Well people lie about many things, but I can't imagine turning away a friend simply because they had an alleged experience. It's hurtful and not very rational. Who knows? Michael may be online checking up on things. Why wouldn't he have a conversation with someone under an anonymous name? I'm open to any ideas and I don't see the reason for banning people under such circumstances. What else was there, oh I remember people saying that their threads were deleted. And I'm sure this happened on numerous occasions. Perhaps these new forums aren't too bad, you know? But the thing is they are no longer what it once was, where we all joined in our love for Michael and our curiosity of the hoax (and our sleepless night with mugs of coffee and waking up with an imprint of the keyboard on our faces grin) Seriously, I don't feel the love. What's worst is, and I'll share this with you most honestly. I don't know if any of you got a glimpse of what happened on Lara's forum when Nicole and I posted about opening this forum. Anyway I always had a preference to Lara's forum genuinely because from my experience she's a very sweet person. So perhaps I hung out there more than I ever did on M&S's forum. Well anyway when Nicole and I finally decided to open this forum, we posted it on both forums. Maybe it wasn't the best thing to do, I'm not sure. All I can tell you is that our intentions have always been solemnly good. I've seen a lot of fighting on M&S's forum so we halfheartedly expected some fuss about our post there, but we both were sure that on Lara's forum people would be pretty open to the idea. What a shocker and a nightmare. I cannot tell you a time in my life when I have been so insulted, accused, judged, and misinterpreted. Not to mention unheard. I'm not even going to go down the list and tell you all the things that were said, but the surprising part was that it wasn't from M&S's forum. Lara's forum, from what I've been told, is a very loving place. I was really, really surprised at how people took it. Anyway, for people who insisted that their forum was about love, they sure did have a lot of awful things to say to both me and Nicole. We had about a thousand hits overnight on that single thread, and condescending comments from about 60 different members. Long story short, we knew at that moment that this forum is a MUST and in a way I'm glad that the whole outburst happened. Because that not only highlights the issue to US, but to the rest of the members there. Where we thought there was love, there was really a lot of frustration and anger that has been misplaced and ignored for months now.
If you happen to be wondering what it is we wrote in our original post on the thread, I'll be glad to post a copy for those who want to see.
ANYWAY, now that that's out of the way, let me explain why Nicole and I felt obliged to make this forum. A lot of you have commented on my thread saying that you agree with what we wrote. "There are issues, and the love is lacking. The forums have ceased to be a family." We talked about a vision we have, and a new direction. Nicole is very talented: she is a telepath and she's great at tarot, among many "skills" (Guy: "You embroider?" Xena: I have many skillz *look of death*) I've also been tuning in to my psychic skills and also read tarot, in large part thanks to Nicole because she's been heaps of help, as well as being patient with me and being my ground for when I'm down. Am I getting cheesy on you? grin Can you feel the love? heart Since we met, we've been doing tarot readings together. And like any other crazed Michael Jackson fan we've done numerous readings on him angel. We kept it clean i promise wink. Usually. Anyway the readings were mainly on his emotional state, his state of mind, the events that led up to the present moment, as well as plans for the future. The patterns were always similar when it came to readings about the past, but the current mindset/emotional status readings always varied with how he was feeling/what he was thinking at the moment. I know that not everyone believes in tarot, or psychic ability. But I ask you to be open minded with me here, because I have not been wrong in my readings to date, nor Nicole. Feel free to let us know your feelings and thoughts, so that we may better help you understand. For those of you who are more interested in Tarot, I'll make a separate post in the Tarot section explaining more about it and why it's so important to us.
Some of you may have seen our posts on the other forums, about our readings for Michael. So with our talents and our gifts, we feel like we know what is going on, to some extent. It's been a while and we feel like we have gotten a clear picture and a good understanding of what has been happening since before June 25th up till now, including Michael's concerns for the future and how we can help. And that is why maybe I have been a bit impatient with the people in the other forums. I feel like they are not getting it, what Michael wants them to understand. By no means am I saying that we are right. You are free to call us bogus or to simply take in what we say. We just ask that this is done with respect and that your opinions and conclusions are drawn from well researched information and open minds. We believe that Michael is a very spiritual person who knows vast amounts of information on a variety of topics. We believe his clues and hints were carefully planned out starting years ago and many things are still being planned out now. We believe the clues are not going to come like they did in the very beginning, nor will they be as obvious. In our opinion Michael is a person with a high frequency, with psychic ability at least to some extent. Vibrational frequency is the rate at which your being vibrates. The higher the frequency, the more the person is evolved spiritually. Every object on this planet, still or alive, has an electric frequency that can be measured accurately. There are methods of raising one's frequency, and it results in a change of things such as musical taste (based on the musical frequency), realizations, feeling like you are not from here, a different diet, your sense of mission, your psychic abilities evolving, you begin to pay more attention to patterns like 11:11 and 333 and "777", you feel different energies around you, and your sensitivity to people and things changes on an emotional level. We all know Michael is a special man, and those changes that happen to a person when their frequency changes seem like they apply to him. He is very sensitive, he is withdrawn, he is incredibly smart and savvy, he is very kind, he is very talented, he cannot sleep at night, he wants to help the world, and now this hoax. These are not all qualities you will find in your next door neighbor. People with Michael's frequency do exist, but there is a smaller amount of people with a higher frequency than people with a lower one in this world right now. Did I lose you guys yet? grinI can go on and on about what we have come to understand and know. And be sure that those who are silent watchers on the forums or those that have left are also becoming aware. Also I'm sure you have all heard about the recent change of vibrational frequency on an earlier symbolic date, i can't remember what it was but it was earlier this year or late last year. The frequencies are changing, they are shifting in the atmosphere, all the energies around us. And we are all, whether we know it or not, changing and shifting with them. Michael's mind is often to be found at higher lever of vibrational frequencies. You cannot say he is your average thinker, right? Michael is a very complex, but simple man at the same time. All in all, there are things that people are missing out on, because they refuse to make that change. They are fighting the energy change and this makes a person bitter and angry because it's tough on the body and spirit. It will happen whether people fight it or not. If you are on this forum, something led you here. Some things are meant to happen and are very symbolic. All of us here, and more to come, I would have to say are on a higher frequency range because we have an inner knowing that SOMETHING is not right over in the other forums where people are lagging. We feel a need to go on to something larger, and not just wait around for Michael to return. We feel the need to know what he's thinking and what this is about. We feel an urge to progress as people. Michael is trying to help shift our frequency, perhaps, and to get us all on that lever where we can HEAL THE WORLD heart and love one another. A deeper understanding.
I really hope I made some sense here. And I'd like to say: feel free to disagree or to question. It's only natural. But you are here, and we are a family. We see eye to eye, we see a higher purpose, rather than just being concerned with Michael's return date. It's why you are here. We would like for you to give us a chance to show you what we know, with time. There are no secrets here, no right or wrong, only friends and family, and the true meaning of love.
Please believe me when I say that Nicole and I love and care about you all very much, and felt the need to share this with you, and to pass on the knowledge to those of you who want to know more.
Everything in due time.
**I ask you all in your respect to the privacy of this forum. Love Is The Answer Forum has been made private, not because there is privileged information here or because we only handpick members, but because we want to have like minded individuals here. We do not wish to force any ideas down anyone's throats and therefore those of you that are here have shown an interest in being here. If we were to invite everyone from all the forums here all at once, the effect would be disastrous (as we have firsthandedly experienced on the public invite we made). We want to put the love back between MJ's fans but every good project starts small. I ask for you all to please not spread the link of this forum. However, if you have a friend or someone that you'd like to invite over because they are oriented in a similar direction, please feel free to invite them over, with our love.
Thanks for being here,
Nicole and Jane (Sha'mone) ;D